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Wreck
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PostSubject: Re: Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts   Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts - Page 11 EmptyFri Feb 27, 2009 12:06 am

Doesn't matter, We have to use extended clip: 19(c) We don't have the slots for aditional. BOOOO

Not including disguises... we are sitting at 398(without Watchful Guard) + NY2,115

That includes:
Combat Load Vest: holds one commlink and can be fitted with ammo pouches.
3X Ammo Pouches (Pistol): Which can hold 3 clips each. So nine of the 10 spares are in pouches. 1 can be in a pocket.

If we get super desperate for gear... which we shouldn't we could drop the Doc Wagon Contract. But those are useful.

Think of the Combat Load Vest as more of a harness than a vest.
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Character Name: Priest Sarah Gaven
Race: ork
Sex: female

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PostSubject: Re: Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts   Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts - Page 11 EmptyFri Feb 27, 2009 3:11 pm

i think you got my math wrong wreck, or i got it wrong, which ever works out. either way, i bought 50 bullets per gun, thats 2 clips (19*2=38) with 12 extra bullets all together per gun, or since we have 2 guns now, 4 clips and 24 extra bullets, or 5 clips and five extra bullets. so we really only need 1 or 2 pouches since we only have 5 total clips.


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PostSubject: Re: Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts   Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts - Page 11 EmptyFri Feb 27, 2009 3:28 pm

heh, yeah... it's freakishly hard to find the descriptive for the load vest. It's described in the first paragraph under Smart Pouches on page 62 of Arsenal. The Ammo pouches are talked about in the next paragraph. Price and Availability are on the "Odds and Ends" Table in the bottom right of the same page. They are also listed as a sub-item of Smart Pouches under the "Odds and Ends" entry on page 192.

I only stumbled across them because I was curious about what a "smart" pouch was.
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[quote="wngd_phantom"]i think you got my math wrong wreck, or i got it wrong, which ever works out. either way, i bought 50 bullets per gun, thats 2 clips (19*2=38) with 12 extra bullets all together per gun, or since we have 2 guns now, 4 clips and 24 extra bullets, or 5 clips and five extra bullets. so we really only need 1 or 2 pouches since we only have 5 total clips.[/quote]

neat, and check out my math here.
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PostSubject: Re: Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts   Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts - Page 11 EmptyFri Feb 27, 2009 3:36 pm

uhh.... I think that was left over from when you suggested the additional clip mod. Originally we wanted 120 bullets and 10 clips because that would have been 5xdouble clips. I'll fix the # of bullets/clips.
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PostSubject: Re: Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts   Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts - Page 11 EmptyFri Feb 27, 2009 3:39 pm

alrighty then.

Hawk don't worry we are almost done with your character, just buttoning up some last minute math.
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PostSubject: Re: Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts   Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts - Page 11 EmptyFri Feb 27, 2009 3:50 pm

So if we are buying 12xEX-Explosive=120 rounds, we only need 4 spare clips. We have 1 in each gun already, so that's a total of 6. So two spare clips per gun, 114 rounds in clips, and 6 left over.

So two Ammo Pouches. We have NY2,070 left.

Sound good?
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PostSubject: Re: Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts   Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts - Page 11 EmptyFri Feb 27, 2009 4:08 pm

are calculating in the new cost for ammo? considering i said 100 rounds, not 120
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PostSubject: Re: Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts   Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts - Page 11 EmptyFri Feb 27, 2009 5:18 pm

At 100 rounds we'd only have 3 extra clips, and 5 extra bullets. At that point the load vest and 1 ammo pouch aren't needed.

So we'd have NY3,225 left over.

I wasn't sure if you meant that you wanted 100 rounds, or 5 spare clips. So I took a mid-stance.
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PostSubject: Re: Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts   Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts - Page 11 EmptyFri Feb 27, 2009 6:10 pm

your right on the 120 bullets, its just 200 extra nuyen anyways. math wise:

given:

  • bullets are NY100 per 10; can only buy them in groups of 10
  • clip size is 19 bullets
  • must have at least 4 clips (1 in each gun and 1 spare for each gun)

Work the math:

  • 120 bullets = NY1,200
  • 120/19= 6.3...-->6 full clips (1 in each gun, 2 spare for each gun, 1+2 = 3 * 2 = 6 full clips) and 6 extra bullets.


Just thought i'd show you that your 120 bullets were better and that we wouldn't get confused anymore.

So...

total cost for 2 custom guns, ammo, 1 custom Katana, 2 silencers, 2 hidden gun arm slides, 1 concealable holster for the katana (yes they make them for swords too.):

totals:
  • Ares 4 predator 350
    extended clip 500 (19 bullets, its our gun anyways)
    personalized grip 100
    melee hardening 300
    underbarrel weapon (cougar fineblade knife, short blade (str/2+1, ap-1) 550
  • Ares 4 predator 350
    extended clip 500 (19 bullets, its our gun anyways)
    personalized grip 100
    melee hardening 300
    underbarrel weapon (cougar fineblade knife, short blade (str/2+1, ap-1) 550
  • Katana 1000
    personalized grip 100
  • Silencer 200
  • Silencer 200
  • Hidden gun arm slide 350
  • Hidden gun arm slide 350
  • Concealable holster (locatated on the small of the back going diagonal up, handle down by your hip 75
  • Ammo: 120 Ex-explosive bullets 1,200
  • 4 spare (empty) clips 60
  • Total = NY7335


that is a complete and total breakdown of everything we have bought weaponry wise.
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PostSubject: Re: Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts   Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts - Page 11 EmptyFri Feb 27, 2009 7:23 pm

So we had enough NY for the second pred even with watchful guard?
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PostSubject: Re: Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts   Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts - Page 11 EmptyFri Feb 27, 2009 7:28 pm

Sweet as Phantom. heh, turns out that when I "fixed" the Ex-Explosive entry in the char-gen... I forgot to switch the price from the Explosive to the Ex-Explosive. Embarassed So my prices were off by half the price on ammo. I've fixed that too.

With Everything Else we've bought EQ wise we have 10BP in gear, with NY2,445.
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PostSubject: Re: Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts   Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts - Page 11 EmptyFri Feb 27, 2009 7:37 pm

Ok.

Man, this char's turned out amazing. I can't wait to get him into a campaign and watch the bullets fly.
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What we did was figure out how much everything we were going to need/want was, converted that to BP, then we made it fit. Think of making a puzzle piece fit with a hammer, saws-all, and duct tape.
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PostSubject: Re: Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts   Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts - Page 11 EmptyFri Feb 27, 2009 8:02 pm

Is that what we did? I thought we were baking cookies... mmmm.... cookies....
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PostSubject: Re: Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts   Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts - Page 11 EmptyFri Feb 27, 2009 8:31 pm

anyways, lets post the finished product up, Wreck i beleive its your turn.
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Race: Human
Sex: Male

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Metatype : Human
Adept

Attributes
Body: 4
Agility: 5 (6)
Reaction: 5 (6)
Strength: 3
Charisma: 2
Intuition: 4
Logic: 3
Willpower: 2

Edge: 2
Magic: 5
Initiative: 10
Essence: 6

Knowledge Skills (17 of 21 free)
English: N
Japanese :4
Corp. Security Tactics: 3
Sec. Procedures: 3
Magic Background: 2
Safe Houses: 1
Poisons: 1
Ares Macrotechnology: 3

Active Skills
Disguise : 3
Inflitration : 3
Palming : 3
Shadowing : 3
Blades (Swords) : 5 (7)
Dodge (Melee Combat) : 4 (6)
Pistols (Semi-Automatics) : 5 (7)
Unarmed Combat (Martial Arts) : 1 (3)
Perception : 3
Etiquette (Corporate) : 2 (4)
Pilot Ground Craft (Bike) : 1 (3)

Qualities
Positive
Adept (5bp)
Ambidextrous (5bp)
martial arts (Ninjutsu 5bp)
martial arts (Fire Fight 15bp)
martial arts (Krav Maga 5bp)
Negative
Addiction, moderate
Allergy unc/mod
Sensitive System

Weapons
Katana
+Personalied Grip
2x Ares Predator IV
2x +Extended Clip (19 rounds)
2x + Personalied Grip
2x + Melee Hardening
2x + Underbarrel Weapon
2x Cougar Fineblade (Short): Mounted UW
2x Hidden Gun Arm Slide
2x Silencer
Concealable Holster
4x Spare Clips
12x Ex-Explosive Rounds (10 shots)

Armors
Secure Tech PPP System (Vitals Protector)
Secure Tech PPP System (Legs/Arm Casings)
Lined Coat

Vehicles
Suzuki Mirage (Racing Bike)

Commlinks
Subvocal Microphone
OS : Iris Orb
Commlink : Novatech Airware

Equipments
Fake License (Rating 4)
Fake Sin (Rating 4)
DocWagon Contract (Gold - per Year)
Glasses
+Smartlink
+Thermographic Vision
+Image Link
+Flare Compensation
Earbud
+ Audio Enhancement (Rating 2)
+ Spatial Recognizer

Powers
Improved Physical Attribute: Agility (level 1)
Improved Reflexes (level 1)
Mystic Armor (level 2)
Counterstrike (Level 1)
Combat Sense (Level 1)

Contacts
Black Market Armorer (L:2 C:2)
Ares Mr. Johnson (L:2 C:4)

Maneuvers (14BP)
Iaijutsu
Set-up
Finishing Move
Two Weapon Style
Multi-Strike
Riposte
Watchful Guard

Special skills and Effects


    Martial Arts
  • Reduce ranged combat "Attacker in Melee combat" mod by 3 total(2 firefight, 1 krav maga) (thus able to use your gun freely while in melee combat)
  • +1 on Melee Dodge (Not block or parry) (thus offsetting the specialization on dodge somewhat)
  • +1 to infiltration tests

    Maneuvers
  • Two-Weapons Style: may coose to apply full dfense option using only one weapon and still attack with the other weapon.
  • Multi-Strike: +1 dice pool for attacking multiple enemies in the same action
  • Iajutsu: quick draw anything
  • Set-up: May make an attack test to deal no damage but to add her net hits to the next following attack; may be used with finishing move.
  • Finishing Move: A character with this maneuver may follow up a succesful attack, whether it deals damage or not, immediately with a move designed to take out the enemy. this allows the character to make an immediate follow-up melee attack in the same action phase. Finishing move counts as an interrupt action and uses up the characters next available action.
  • Ripsote: a character with riposte who successfully parries or blocks a melee combat attack may make an immediate attack on her attacker even if it is not her action phase in the turn.
  • Watchful Guard: Reduce the penalty for “defender has defended against previous attacks” by 1.
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PostSubject: Re: Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts   Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts - Page 11 EmptyFri Feb 27, 2009 9:19 pm

there it is, Toshiro is done hawk.
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PostSubject: Re: Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts   Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts - Page 11 EmptyFri Feb 27, 2009 9:20 pm

What should we build next?
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Awesome guys. Thanks for all the help. This was a lot of fun... do you mind if I hang around and chime in now and again on your builds?
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PostSubject: Re: Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts   Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts - Page 11 EmptyFri Feb 27, 2009 9:41 pm

I think we need a player that wants to do a technomancer.
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PostSubject: Re: Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts   Character Consepts: Mages/Mystics/Adepts - Page 11 EmptyFri Feb 27, 2009 10:46 pm

yeah we do, have either of us played a technomancer before?

Sure Hawk, i don't mind.
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I made one once, but I never actually got to play him. You can make a hacker much more effective in the short run than a Technomancer, so that's why I built Wr3ck.
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i would assume its not that difficult, i made a mechno-mancer to handle security at the church for matron and i always had the image of as long as their is technology nearby, we can do whatever it is we need to, so perception would be a plus, maybe we should make a technomancer hacker/spider with a splash of rigger? You also know the whole hacking/technology world better than me so it shouldn't be that hard. or we simply just build a hacker with cyber gear, none of these past three characters have any cyber, maybe throw an odd one in the mix, one that needs it to live or something along those lines.

Should we let Hawk post his character into the Norse Winds thread?
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my honest vote is that we go for a technomancer, we have a true sorcerer (Taviro, my guy). We also have a phys-ad/monster that chuck norris checks under his bed for (Jötunn, your guy). So maybe we should go for a digital sorcerer, and give him a splash of something so he can kick trog in combat next to your guy.
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